THE HON BILL SHORTEN MP
LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION
MEMBER FOR MARIBYRNONG
THE HON JENNY MACKLIN MP
SHADOW MINISTER FOR DISABILITY REFORM
FEDERAL MEMBER FOR JAGAJAGA
TRANSCRIPT
JOINT DOORSTOP
TREASURY GARDENS, MELBOURNE
FRIDAY, 25 OCTOBER 2013
Subjects: Abbott Government Walking Away from DisabilityCare and
selling off Medibank Private, Infrastructure, NSW Bushfires, Don Randall
MP.
Bill Shorten: It’s great to be here in Melbourne with Labor’s Shadow Disability Spokesperson, Jenny Macklin.
Today, Labor is gravely concerned at reports in the media that the
Coalition Government is considering scaling back the National Disability
Insurance Scheme – DisabilityCare – or indeed abolishing it and moving
it to Medibank Private.
Yesterday we had reports that the Coalition Government was going to
consider engaging in a fire sale to sell Medibank Private and then today
we’ve got reports from Dr Steve Hambleton, the President of the AMA,
expressing his concern that if Medibank Private is privatised, then what
will happen is there will be upward pressure on health premiums.
But even more disturbingly, we find that whilst the Government is
looking at privatising important health insurance assets which will put
upward pressure on families’ cost of living, that now the Government’s
looking at putting at risk the National Disability Insurance Scheme –
DisabilityCare.
Labor is justifiably proud of the work we’ve done to bring in people
with disability and their carers from the cold, from their second-class
life in Australia, through the provision of DisabilityCare.
It is not right and Labor will fight tooth and nail to make sure that
the Coalition keeps its hands off DisabilityCare, the National
Disability Insurance Scheme.
We will fight this with every inch of our efforts because we believe
that the hundreds of thousands of people with severe or profound
disabilities, and millions of carers and their family members, deserve a
better deal in Australia and we’re not going to allow the Coalition to
say one thing before the election where they pretended to be in support
of everything we’re doing, where they vote for the legislation in the
parliament, and as soon as the election’s had, as soon as they’re in
power, all of a sudden they start junking their pre-election comments.
Jenny Macklin: I would like to say very plainly to Mr Hockey,
keep your hands off the National Disability Insurance Scheme. People
with disability, carers in Australia, have campaigned for years to
establish the National Disability Insurance Scheme.
The legislation went through the parliament earlier this year. The
National Disability Insurance Scheme is now real for thousands of people
with disability and their carers and now we see in the newspaper this
morning that Joe Hockey, the new Treasurer of Australia, is looking to
have the National Disability Insurance Scheme run by a privatised
Medibank Private.
It’s not good enough. Mr Hockey, keep your hands off the National Disability Insurance Scheme.
Shorten: Happy to take questions.
Journalist: The government stressed that this is just an idea? Are you making too much of this too soon?
Shorten: People with disabilities don’t deserve to have their
lives disrupted by ill-thought out Coalition thought bubbles. The
Government needs to realise they’re in Government now, when they have a
thought bubble, this affects the security and wellbeing of thousands of
Australians.
This Government loved three word slogans in Opposition. Here’s a three word slogan back – hands off DisabilityCare.
Shorten: Another other questions?
Journalist: (Inaudible)
Shorten: First of all, there’s been no proper business case
done of the east-west tunnel link. Everyone supports jobs. The issue,
though, is that we’ve got an issue of public transport. The best way to
clear up congestion in Melbourne, before you get to the roads, is to
make sure the people have the option of catching the train.
We know that the central underground loop is at breaking point now,
that it’s practically impossible to get more train carriages on the
underground loop at peak period times, so in order to deal with road
congestion, which is a real issue, it becomes hard to deal with that
effectively until you have a properly funded public transport system and
tracks in inner city Melbourne so that would be the first priority.
The second thing is we need to ensure there is a proper business case
attached to this plan so there’s a fair way to go before I believe we
should be signing off on the State Government’s latest thought bubble.
What we believe in Labor is evidence trumps rhetoric. We want to see the
evidence in the business and a proper long-term plan for Melbourne’s
transport not just a thought bubble.
Journalist: (Inaudible)
Shorten: I’m not the State Opposition but what I do know is
that to make Melbourne function well, for all of us who love Melbourne
and love the great lifestyle, we need to do something about easing not
just road congestion but having a better public transport system so
people have an option other than driving their cars everywhere and that
involves better inner city metro rail.
Journalist: What do you say the discrepancy is between Don
Randall and Tony Abbott on what they’ve said about Don Randall expenses
and do you think Don Randall should be disciplined?
Shorten: The issue of the Don Randall travel entitlements
matter is one for the Prime Minister Tony Abbott. The current Prime
Minister made a hero of himself chasing people on entitlements when he
was in Opposition. We think that Prime Minister Abbott has to get to the
bottom of this. He’s offered one explanation for Mr Randall’s trip. Mr
Randall’s offered another explanation for Mr Randall’s trip. I think
Australians legitimately want to ensure that high standards are being
maintained. It’s up to Mr Abbott to account for the actions of the
members of his Government.
Journalist: The ‘Sydney Morning Herald’ today in its editorial
calling for leadership from you and Mr Abbott today have called for you
to show leadership on expenses. What leadership are you going to show?
Shorten: Mr Randall is not in my party, Mr Randall is a
Liberal. Mr Randall is a Liberal MP. The Prime Minister of Australia
gave an explanation for what Mr Randall was doing. Mr Randall’s given a
different explanation for what Mr Randall was doing. The buck stops with
the Government and the buck stops with the Prime Minister when it comes
to the conduct of members of his own party.
In terms of the entitlements issue more generally, we are prepared to
engage in constructive bipartisan discussions to improve public
confidence in the system.
Journalist: What sort of reforms do you thing are needed (inaudible)?
Shorten: First of all Mr Abbott needs to explain what Mr
Randall is doing. You can’t have two people in the same Government
offering different explanations on different days. I think that would go
a long way to restoring public confidence – if Mr Abbott and Mr Randall
can give the same explanations of Mr Randall’s activities.
More generally, we again reiterate the offer that we’re willing to
engage in constructive to ensure the public can have confidence in the
system of entitlements in Australia. We won’t shirk what we have to do.
We will work with the Government to ensure the public have the best
possible confidence in our entitlement system.
Journalist: On the Barrie Cassidy story, was it the wrong thing for him to be appointed (inaudible)?
Shorten: In terms of appointments process, no, we think that
processes which have gone through should be respected. We don’t believe
in political witch hunts so, no, we probably have a different view to
some of the commentary in the media.
Journalist: (inaudible)
Shorten: When it comes to bushfires in NSW, Labor’s thoughts
go out to the family of the pilot who was killed yesterday. Our
thoughts are with the thousands of volunteers doing a marvellous job
protecting life and property in the Blue Mountains and other parts of
NSW. I had the opportunity to visit with Senator Doug Cameron, our
Spokesperson on Human Services, to see how the recovery and the efforts
are going first-hand on Tuesday this week.
It is like a war zone, some of the houses which have been destroyed
in the Blue Mountains. I think in Australia, we can take for granted our
security and safety but when you see the damage and the loss of
property that some that some people have suffered, that’s the most
important issue this week.
The recovery efforts are quite remarkable. Sadly, we’ve learned a lot
in the last few years about how to help people in these disasters but
of course all the insurance in the world and all the cups of tea and all
the efforts, the fine efforts that are happening, don’t help families
be able to get the school reports of their kids which have been burnt or
the family photos or family heirlooms.
This week is not a week for politics. This is a week for recognising
and supporting people who’ve been through a terrible time and the
amazing efforts of thousands of people.
In future weeks no doubt there will be a debate about the causes and
the nature of these bushfires but I think out of respect for the people
who are going through a tough time this is not the week to have that
discussion.
Journalist: Jenny Macklin can I ask you a quick question?
When did you first express concern about the Indigenous Land Council’s
purchase of Uluru and the Uluru resort and do you think that was a bad
investment?
Macklin: These matters go back some time before the Indigenous
Land Council made the decision to purchase Yulara and both the Finance
Minister at the time, Senator Wong, and I, both asked many questions
about the issue but in the end it was a matter for the board. The board
had to make that decision and the board has the responsibility for the
decision that was made.
Journalist: Are you willing in hindsight to express an opinion on that?
Macklin: It’s a matter for the board.
Shorten: Thank you.
ENDS