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Fake news, alternative facts, echo chambers and an
"information war"; journalists love a bit of navel-gazing and Monday's
Q&A panel, packed with representatives from the media, was always
going to focus heavily on such issues.
US President Donald Trump
reared his wispy-haired head regularly throughout, with the guests
attempting to dissect how he swept to power through clever manipulation
of the media.The panel was comprised of former director-general of the Al Jazeera Network, Wadah Khanfar, Claire Wardle of First Draft News, The Australian journalist Mark Day representing the news media, and politicians Zed Seselja, Assistant Minister for Social Services and Multicultural Affairs, and Labor MP Terri Butler.
There was debate over the very meaning of the phrase 'fake news', the power of social media and how the mainstream media needs to invent itself. One thing the panellists agreed upon was that we have never seen a politician like Mr Trump before.
Will the 'Trump Show' eventually implode?
Mr Khanfar argued that Mr Trump's showbiz-styled Presidency can only go on for so long if he isn't able to back up the rhetoric.Mr Seselja said the mainstream media was partly responsible for Mr Trump's ascension to the presidency."I think Trump is a big joke. I think Trump is going to fail."He came from a show and he thinks that he can continue running a show. I think he didn't realise during elections you may have a show — sometimes all of us have shows during elections — but when it comes to real office, now you are a statesman.
"Trump doesn't understand what that means. So he continues to run the show.
"Now, will that deliver to the state, to the public, to his particular audience, to the people who he promised to enhance the reality?
"Is he going to be able to deliver with this kind of show of the tweets and making jokes about the media and so on and so forth? I don't think so.
"This could continue for a while. This could be entertaining for all of us, but he is not a statesman and, therefore, I think he is going to fail and even his followers are going to realise they have been misled — yes, he can be utilised in the mainstream in Washington, but I don't see that he is the best person to really lead."
Video: Zed Seselja on Trump's use of 'fake news' (ABC News)
"If a politician makes a claim and they can't back it up, over time they will lose credibility and if you can back up what you say.
"Our credibility is very important to us. We could argue that politicians right across the board have, from time to time, not lived up to that and they certainly often get punished for that, but we need to value our credibility.
"Donald Trump has certainly said very forcefully that he doesn't trust the media and certainly many of his supporters don't trust the media."If the mainstream media doesn't have the trust, of course it will be easier for a politician, especially an effective politician who has a very big following, to avoid them."
The 'misinformation ecosystem'
Ms Wardle, who isn't a fan of the term 'fake news' and instead prefers 'misinformation ecosystem', said Mr Trump had essentially bypassed traditional media channels to deliver his message."Because of Twitter, he can go directly to his audiences and say whatever he likes. The more he says it is 'fake news', which is why none of us should use that phrase …
"What he is essentially saying is 'don't trust anyone else, follow my Twitter account and trust me'."That is why it is so dangerous. In a democracy we have to have a free press.
"We we can joke about the term 'fake news' but he is doing it deliberately and he's been very successful."
Making sense of the modern media landscape
Video: Claire Wardle on how memes influenced the US election (ABC News)
"Times have changed. It used to be that we had gate keepers. We had the ABC. They went to the news agent and got their paper and paid their money. Now news comes to us via text message or email or Twitter or Facebook.
"The design of it is very complicated. We don't know what is what, which is the mainstream media, which is a blogger or a friend sharing a rumour. It is very difficult to make sense of all of this.
"So, as citizens of information and consumers of information, we have to learn how to be critical of the information that we consume and journalists have got an important role to play in helping audiences navigate the news ecosystem.
"But as users we have to take responsibility for checking what we are receiving and, crucially, what we share ourselves.
Mark Day pointed out that this has (sort of) happened before:"We now become publishers when we share. So we have a responsibility to think about that before we retweet."
According to Mr Khanfar, sometimes the media has set a bad example for people to follow."You have got to remember we have been here before when the printing press was invented."All sorts of people came out and started writing stuff and printing pamphlets and disseminating it. Most of it was false and made up.
"The truth is an emotional decision, it is what you choose to believe and that is a worry."
"We need to engage with the public in educating and also telling them exactly how they should read us, how they should define our biases and look up what mistakes we do. I think we, as journalists, we have higher ethical role to play in educating the public on how to figure out our own biases before we even start with them telling them your Facebook is full of nonsense.
"No, I think we sometimes are actually giving them a bad role model on how to do news and how to spread it and how to analyse it and contextualise it."
Left-wing bias at the ABC?
Do the ABC and most other media organisations have a left-wing bias? Who better to answer that question than a couple of pollies?Video: The Q&A panel discusses left-wing bias in the media (ABC News)
Mr Seselja said journalists couldn't help but bring their own values system to their work, while pointing out funding had already been cut to the ABC.
"We shouldn't pretend that there is no bias that comes into play, even from very professional journalists who are doing their best because we all have a world view that shapes the way that we look at the world and even when we are doing our level-best to be right down the centre and as fair and impartial as we can, we are always going to be a little bit influenced of our view of the world, the way that we see the world.Ms Butler said she hadn't really noticed:
"There is a centre-left bias to an extent."
"I don't have a lot of time to watch the ABC. It is either your show (Q&A) with a diversity of views or the news. I am a member of a left-wing organisation so maybe I can detect biases that favour my own view. It seems likely.
"I don't detect any bias in the way that the news is reported and I think you would struggle to argue that the ABC News or ABC News 24 is biased in one direction or the other."If the amendment is about programming content more broadly than the news and current affairs, I think you will probably find, notwithstanding they have cut the funding to the ABC, the Government has been pretty active in looking to find ways to look at what the content is that is broadcast on the ABC TV channels and also on radio and there certainly has been a move, for example, towards more regional and agricultural-based content and that has been pretty obvious over the past few years.
"I am not sure that the criticism is particularly warranted."
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